Commentary for black move 23:

MAURICE ASHLEY: Sounds good. Well, so, the next move by Kasparov will be critical, and I'm sure the move Nc3 came as a bit of a surprise to him, and we're getting to the end of the third quarter for Kasparov. His time now, 32 minutes and ticking down. A suppliesing -- surprising move I think the move Nc3, the doubling back, and I think he's going to have to be very concerned. I think this is a move he could have easily dismissed, just suddenly "think about that, just go back." And spending some time now, if you look at him, he had a very clear plan --

GK MOVE: 23...Ndc5

MAURICE ASHLEY: Still Ne4 is not possible, but Kasparov may instead be intending the move d5-d4. But that wouldn't give him any support to his e4 square so that's one possibility. Ne4 certainly is out. This is not a possibility, but d4 would simply be responded to by Nd1, so I'm going to have to hesitate a bit on this one. He may be intending Nd4, this is a possibility, Nd4 hitting the f2 square. And we'd like to welcome back Grandmaster Yasser Seirawan. There have been some strange moves, some funky moves, trying to figure out why these strange moves have been played. Kasparov is looking very confident in the meantime with all these sacrificial ideas. I'm going to leave you, better than anyone here on stage, to try and explain it -- and you better explain it! -- and I'm going to take my leave.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Thank you. Maurice Ashley.

MIKE VALVO: Don't we have a guest pretty soon?

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Right now, in fact just to bail me out. It is a very, very tough position. I have spoken to one of the managers, if you will, for Garry Kasparov, Andrew /KA* page, he had asked me how Garry is doing, and I said well, an early prediction is Garry is going to win a tactical brilliancy or lose a strategical --

MIKE VALVO: Masterpiece.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Masterpiece, thank you. Because he had taken on these weak pawns. He had damaged his pawn structure and he has these two weak pawns. At the same time he's built up a great deal of compensation that he had to have sacrificed a pawn. A beautiful majority of 4 verst 2 over here but the occupation of the f4 square could be compensation. Anything could still happen. We'll look at this position in a moment in some detail. But first we're very honored today. We have a woman who is going to join us on stage. She is an International Grandmaster. She is two-time U.S. woman's champion, current champion /-FTD United States, twice on the Olympic team of the United States, and in her recent outing on the owe limbpy add, she was the first board. Her name is Angelina Bela sky a. And I hope I pronounced it correctly. A nice part about introducing a woman you get to kiss them on stage. Okay, the aweience wants to know what's going on! The last few moves, Angelina, did you like Garry's decision of f6? I just want to go back.

ANGELINA BELASKAYA: Of f6?

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Yeah.

ANGELINA BELASKAYA: Yeah, I think it was very interesting.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: You like it? Or you would have played it? It's going to lead to these kinds of positions where black has to do something tactically to overcome a strategical problem.

ANGELINA BELASKAYA: I can tell you if he was going to play Qxf6, I would definitely have played f6.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: So all of these moves were quite natural, white is trying to control the e5 square. Black the f-file. How did you evaluate the position at this point?

ANGELINA BELASKAYA: From the openings this, game Kasparov played very different from the second one.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Oh, yes.

ANGELINA BELASKAYA: And I think it's a nice strategy because with the black pieces, yes, you can try to go out of its environs. When he plays with the white pieces it's probably better to go to main line and get an advantage in the position. So today he played with the black pieces and it was a position that he does good. Because most of the time Garry play Sicilian, it's his opening, and of course it seems like he's just a little scared to play Sicilian against the computer, and this is why he made a decision to play Caro-Kann which finally get to the French defense without the bishop on c8.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: I'm sorry to interrupt you. Somehow I'm having trouble getting back to the game position. And I just wanted to say that the move e5 -- e6-e5 struck me as a good idea. Black has activated his knights, and Deep Blue has fiddled around, with the move Nc3-d1, back to c3. And black has great pressure, great pressure for a pawn, but a pawn is a pawn. That's a computer strength?

ANGELINA BELASKAYA: Yeah, because sometimes when you sacrifice a pawn, and you get get active position for your pieces, it's much better, it's easy for you to play because you don't have to worry about your pieces, where to find a good place. The position is very open. But sometimes you don't have enough compensation, and a pawn is a pawn.

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Exactly. I'd like to take the opportunity to invite the audience to ask questions of Angelina. Do we have some questions? Yes, sir?

AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'd like to ask this question of all of you. Joe earlier stated that he believed it would not be long before computers were significantly superior to any human players. I think you tapped him on the back or knocked him on the back?

YASSER SEIRAWAN: No, I was about to hit him, yeah. Just to be clear.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: Do you each individually agree with this, or disagree, or not have an opinion?

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Mike, will you start us off?

MIKE VALVO: Well, I think that computers will eventually be better than humans. But right now, there only seems to be one that is in the same category as humans and that's this machine. There are others that are close, but are maybe a class behind this machine, just like Garry is almost a class better than the rest of the world it may be five years before we can really get super nervous, but I think a lot of Grandmasters are getting nervous now, thinking "Gee, what's going to happen to my livelihood?"

YASSER SEIRAWAN: Angela, what about you, do you think computers are going to eventually usurp our supremacy?

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